Think your in shape? How do you pair up with the rest of us?

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Think your in shape? How do you pair up with the rest of us?

Unread postby JDog777 » Tue May 27, 2003 7:50 pm

Me:

Sex: Male
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 160 lbs
Body Fat: 3.89%
40 yard dash time: 4.8 seconds
Shuttle Time: 4.44 seconds
Squat: 300+ lbs

I may not be in shape, or I may be in great shape, I don't know, thats why I am posting this for others to fill in these categories so I can see where I matchup with the rest of my competition. I didn't post bench press as a category because I hurt my shoulder in wrestling and have been unable to bench (afraid of hurting it again and missing the vaulting season) so I don't know what my bench is at.

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Unread postby mcminkz05 » Tue May 27, 2003 8:07 pm

well, im a jr in hs, i guess this is my stats..

male
6-1
170
dunno bout bf...probably like 5 or 6%
4.5
dunno shuttle time...
squat....probably close to 300
bench 200
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Unread postby superelf03 » Wed May 28, 2003 12:29 am

male senior in HS
5'11"
155
dont know body fat
40- 4.9s
shuttle- 4.2s
squat- 275
bench- 170

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Unread postby TeddyVault » Wed May 28, 2003 2:24 am

This is an interesting strand, I like the idea, but it seems that there might be better indicators as to "in shape."
I was a distance runner for many years, so when I hear "In shape" I automatically think of a mile time, or a four hundred time. A forty does not really tell much about aerobic and anaerobic conditioning, and actually, a four hundred and a mile are more measures of speed rather than shape.
Maybe something to put here would be vertical leap rather than how much a person can squat. Vertical leap is functional, there are so many things that require jumping. A squat is important, but does not relate as directly to vaulting "shape." If you squat slow, heavy weights it might not do all that much for your speed.
Pull ups and sit ups might be a good indicator of vaulting shape, or maybe how many times a person can climb up and down a rope with their legs held perpendicular to their body. That seems like it might be pretty indicitive of some serious vault oriented strength. (My coach in high school told me if I could do that from the floor to the roof and back twice in that state that I would probably be a state champ. I made it one and three quarters and ended up third. I guesse he was right.)
Ok, sorry to ramble so, just a few thoughts.
Oh yeah, I don't really want to say what any of mine are, I'm so sadly out of shape. Damn nagging pains make it hard. :crying:
Maybe I wasn't supposed to eat those paint chips?

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Unread postby swtvault » Wed May 28, 2003 11:28 am

I think the only worthwhile test for polevaulters is a flying 15-30, and the infamous Vert jump, and standing long jump. With the VJ and SLJ calculate your power in watts per kilogram. If you are over 20w/kg you are pretty powerful.
Retain faith that you will prevail in the end, regardless of the difficulties.

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Unread postby tim hutzley » Wed May 28, 2003 7:46 pm

sophmor male
hight 6'1"
me weight 155 lbs
bench 190
squat 280
40 yrd 4.9
clean and jerk 130
body fat 5%
pull ups 28, one hand 2
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Unread postby frozensteele » Sat May 31, 2003 6:02 pm

16 year old Male
Height: 6'
Weight: 180
Body Fat: Don't Know
40 Yard Dash: 4.9
Shuttle: Don't Know
Squat: 320 (That was 6 months ago)
Bench: 220

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Unread postby dguier » Sat May 31, 2003 10:59 pm

18yr old
5'11"
Weight: 155
Body Fat: no clue
40 Yard Dash: 4.5
Squat: no clue on max. i do 225 3 sets of 10
Bench: 230
400: 53.3 secs

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Unread postby Barto » Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:19 pm

Very slippery slope when you start looking at statistics, but here are a few indicators of what it takes to be elite.

Men
Clean 150% of body weight
Squat 250% of body weight
Standing Long Jump - 3m (10')
20 pullups in 30 sec
30 v-sits in 30 sec

Women
Clean 125% of body weight
Squat 250% of body weight
Standing Long Jump - 2.80m (9'2")
15 pullups in 30 sec
30 v-sits in 30 sec

Those will get you in the ball park

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Unread postby OAKPV2004 » Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:46 pm

If your talking about pole vaulting, height is the only thing that determines elite. I think 5.70m is elite.
i think before my days are done.

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Unread postby Barto » Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:59 pm

Find a 5.70m guy who is not pretty close to those parameters.

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Unread postby Decamouse » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:28 pm

It is all in the perspective - I sat in in a meeting with a 50 plus guy and a 40 plus guy - I would say the are in great shape - for anyone - regardless of age - are their 40 times and lift wgts great - all in prespective - could they out perform most 20-30 year olds - yes -
Plant like crap sometimes ok most times


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