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Unread postby Robert schmitt » Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:52 pm

saraf wrote:gese i was reading all of this "stuff" it is so confusing. I don't lift, at all. I use to wrestle and I lifted then but once I started pole vault it just all stoped for some reason. Is that realy bad? I have been improving rapidly and not doing any weight lifting? i don't know, all of these numbers are just, numbers to me


For as much and often as I lift I don't recomend it to any of my vaulters. For me lifting hurts my pole vault, When I vaulted my best in college was after our new pole vault coach banned me from the wieght room. You'll do fine if you do gymnastic work and vault.
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Unread postby vaultinggoat16 » Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:13 pm

Hip sleds add a horizontal vector to the lift so it pretty much 1/2's or more the wieght you do..I can not do it very well because I am short and the machine is long...

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Unread postby Robert schmitt » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:44 pm

vaultinggoat16 wrote:Hip sleds add a horizontal vector to the lift so it pretty much 1/2's or more the wieght you do..

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I've heard that too, and it's probably fairly acurrate.
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Unread postby vaultinggoat16 » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:29 pm

It is just a matter of physics I'm not in a lame enough mood to actually bother doing the vectoring...but it really does cut down on the actual wieght since how the horizontal motion relieves some of the wieght..Goes from a X vector to a X and Y vector


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Unread postby fong520 » Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:18 pm

:idea: ... im only a soph in hs... we dont learn this stuff hahah
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Unread postby bjvando » Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:20 am

im a JR in college and STILL havent learned that... or maybe i was supposed to....... :o

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Unread postby jhesch » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:23 am

vector physics is rather easy for me. just applyin pythagorean theorem and some basic trig.-stuff im learnin in high school physics. however, if you start talkin about rates of change in terms of this hip-sled, I haven't taken calculus-based physics, though i am in calc, although i would like to and find that stuff interesting.

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Unread postby Robert schmitt » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:00 pm

Don't forget to take in acct. the coeffiecent for friction for the sled riding on the rails :P
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Unread postby lonestar » Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:55 pm

Robert schmitt wrote:For as much and often as I lift I don't recomend it to any of my vaulters. For me lifting hurts my pole vault, When I vaulted my best in college was after our new pole vault coach banned me from the wieght room. You'll do fine if you do gymnastic work and vault.


I agree Robert. I'm a total weakling, but in college I benched around 245 weighing 150, squatted 350ish, and cleaned about 150, but only vaulted 14'0 on the average, 14'6 twice from a 16 step run. The other day I layed on a bench and tried to press a warmup set of 10 reps with 135, and barely got the last 2 reps up - I'd be lucky if I could bench 200lbs on a one rep max these days. I haven't done weights or a sprint workout in 2 years, yet now I'm vaulting 15'0-15'6 consistently from a 14 step run on poles 20lbs heavier and I only weigh 5lbs more than I did in college. All I have done is vault 1-3 times a week, mainly from short runs of 6 steps. Do strength and speed play an important role? Absolutely, but there's a lot to be said for good technique.
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Unread postby tim hutzley » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:19 am

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Unread postby KYLE ELLIS » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:51 am

I can hold my breath for 3 min. and 27 sec. and gauruntee that i can beat anone on this board in swimming
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Unread postby wacky274 » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:25 am

ellis, in what swimming events? lol
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