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top push off

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:15 pm
by CHSVAULT
ok when i vault i dont kow why i cant get any extension off my pole i have good rotation and what not but i just dont get any extension...... should i maybe be using a stiffer pole? im on a 14'7 175 ucs spirit i weight 171.... would maybe using a 185 help this out?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:39 pm
by vaulter894
the stiffer pole may help but remember that jumping up 10 pounds in stiffness is tough, unless you have used the other pole before, also just remember to stay tight with the pole up top because you may be flagging out up top(when you get away from your pole) and that would cause less of the handstand on the top of the poleand more of a flattening out.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 3:55 pm
by CHSVAULT
so what do u suggest for helping to stay in tight?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 5:18 pm
by Vaulter1080
In my case, I had a lot of trouble extending because of mis-use of the pole. I looked to fixing my takeoff, and it seemed to help with just about everything after takeoff that I was having trouble with.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 7:45 pm
by vaulter894
for help on staying tight, if u have one, the pulley system does a lot of help, and when you rockback and start to go up in a vault, try to have that pole touch your chest with your head towards the box, this will help a lot.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 9:42 pm
by saraf
i think the plant and take off is key to staying tight to the pole latter in the jump. if you can't take off good, it is much harder to stay tight to the pole

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 10:06 pm
by CHSVAULT
i dont think there is a thing wrong with my plant or takeoff i think its when i get inverted i feel this sort of dead spot in the pole like it just cant push up my weight that fast like i need it too......so therefore this week im going to try to get on a 185 which im sure ill have no problem with after a few sl;ight adjustments

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 10:15 pm
by zack
CHSVAULT wrote:i dont think there is a thing wrong with my plant or takeoff
You must be jumping at least 19' then. C'mon be serious - anything wrong you do in the run will carry into the takeoff then to the swing and everything else.

Your takeoff might be too low or the pole might be too small. Its almost impossible to say without seeing you jump.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 10:21 pm
by Vaulter1080
no one's plant and run is perfect, yeah he counts too. Planting without being tall ruins the timing of the entire jump. If the pole is bent too early (taking off under) it will recoil earlier, pulling you up from a lower height, and probably only after you have passed over the box. This causes your swing to fight against the pole, slowing the pole recoil down, while maintaining your horizontal speed. Pulling during takeoff can also cause this. I'm curious to know what you usually jump with your standards at and at what height you're usually at.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 11:00 pm
by CHSVAULT
no where did i say my p0lant was perfect...........hell i wish it was, but its not.......im just saying i dont think it has anything to do with the plant at this point i could be wrong but i never did say i had a perfect plant.....im jumping 14'6 and setting standards at 23

Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 12:25 am
by TheOtherCHSVaulter
Yea I sit and watch him every day at practice and truthfully speakingthe problem isn't in his run or his plant/jump. Its when hegets up there that he has the problems.

Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 12:28 am
by CHSVAULT
huh??? who are you?"